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Live with Jon Mick and Lee Hopkins

A counselling psychologist and a systems builder compare memory systems, therapy experiments, and ghosting etiquette.

Lee Hopkins and I met on Substack, started a weekly call in April, and then I ghosted him until August. He'll tell you he wasn't offended. This Live is what reconnection looks like when both people run on the same wiring: we skipped the apology tour and went straight into the deep end.

We cover the Friday deck that shows me my own week, recording arguments with my wife (with her blessing), the time I A/B tested six therapists, why Claude keeps welfare-checking Lee over a novel he's writing, and the two lessons that survived a few years of externalizing my cognition.

The article Lee kept praising is I Was Late to My Own Body. The follow-up he's waiting on, about the approach and pursuit wiring in my brain, drops next.

Lee is a counselling psychologist, forty books deep, late-diagnosed AuDHD at 66, writing at Letters from the Quiet Half. His new book, Death of a Gentleman, takes apart the masculine script we all inherited.

Subscribe to him. Thank me later.

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